Eyes On The Street : Episode 29  by CivicBrand

Episode 29

In this unique episode of Eyes on the Street, CivicBrand co-founder Ryan Short interviews ChatGPT as read by none other than the iconic voice of Snoop Dogg.

Through Snoop’s West Coast charm, we get to hear how ChatGPT answers questions about public engagement, place branding, and placemaking. Depending on your experience with AI the answers are either surprisingly (or not surprisingly) really good!


Ryan Short


ChatGPT with voice of Snoop

Artificial Intelligence

behind the scenes


Ryan: Hello Chat GPT and Snoop thanks for coming on the podcast. Have you ever been interviewed for a podcast? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: No, I haven’t been interviewed for a podcast. I’m a machine learning model created by OpenAI, so I don’t have personal experiences or the ability to participate in interviews. However, I’m here to help answer your questions and provide information to the best of my abilities! 


Ryan Short: So what do you know about place branding?

Snoop/ChatGPT:  Place branding is a strategic marketing approach used to shape the perception of a location, such as a city or region. It involves creating a distinct and positive identity for the place to attract visitors, investors, and residents. This process often includes the development of a unique narrative, visual elements, and promotional activities to differentiate the location from others. Successful place branding can enhance the overall image, competitiveness, and economic vitality of a place. It’s a holistic effort that considers cultural, historical, and economic factors to create a compelling and authentic story about the destination. The goal is to establish a strong and memorable brand that resonates with various stakeholders, fostering a sense of pride and loyalty while driving positive perceptions.


Ryan Short: Yeah, I think that’s a pretty good summary. We do like to be very intentional about the difference between branding and marketing though because I feel that too many people think about branding only in the sense of marketing. What are your thoughts about the difference between branding and marketing when it comes to city or place branding?

Snoop/ChatGPT: In the context of city or place branding, branding is the strategic process of shaping the overall identity and perception of a location. It goes beyond marketing, encompassing the holistic development of a unique and authentic narrative, visual elements, and cultural aspects that distinguish the place. Branding establishes the fundamental character and values, influencing how the location is perceived by residents, visitors, and investors. Marketing, on the other hand, involves the specific promotional activities and campaigns designed to communicate the brand and attract target audiences. While marketing is a crucial component, branding sets the foundation, guiding all promotional efforts to ensure they align with the intended image and values of the place.


Ryan Short: What do you see as the role of placemaking or shaping of the built environment as it relates to place branding? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: Placemaking, or shaping the built environment, is integral to place branding as it physically manifests the intended identity and values of a location. Thoughtful design and development create a tangible expression of the brand, influencing perceptions and fostering a sense of community. The built environment serves as a powerful visual and experiential component, aligning with the narrative and enhancing the authenticity of the branded place.


Ryan Short: I like that you said its a tangible expression of the brand. I think where we see placemaking being misunderstood is when it is purely about “decorating” the place rather than truly “shaping” the place. Would you agree with that? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: Absolutely, I agree. Placemaking is not just about superficial embellishments; it’s about shaping the physical and social fabric of a place to reflect its unique identity. Genuine placemaking involves thoughtful urban planning and design that goes beyond aesthetics, considering functionality, community engagement, and the overall user experience. When mistaken for mere decoration, the true potential of placemaking to create a meaningful and lasting impact on the identity and character of a place may be overlooked.


Ryan Short: What are your thoughts on who should “own” a place brand? Or further, what is the best entity to manage that. Is it the city government, economic development, a chamber of commerce, a visit organaization or DMO, nobody, or a collaborative effort of all of the above?  

Snoop/ChatGPT: The ownership of a place brand is ideally a collaborative effort involving various stakeholders. While city governments play a vital role in establishing policies and infrastructure, the management of a place brand often requires a multifaceted approach. Economic development agencies can contribute by aligning branding efforts with economic goals. Chambers of commerce can represent the business community, and destination marketing organizations (DMOs) or visitor organizations can focus on attracting tourists. However, successful place branding often thrives when there’s a shared vision and collaboration among these entities. A collaborative approach ensures that diverse perspectives are considered, fostering a more comprehensive and authentic representation of the place. Ultimately, effective place branding requires a coordinated effort, with each entity playing a specialized role in contributing to and promoting the overall brand identity.


Ryan Short: Yeah, at CivicBrand we completely agree. Do you have any advice for communities that are looking to develop that collaborative approach to establishing and managing a place brand? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: Certainly! Developing a collaborative approach to establishing and managing a place brand involves fostering communication, shared vision, and coordinated efforts. Here are some key pieces of advice for communities:

  • 1. Stakeholder Engagement: Engage a diverse range of stakeholders, including government officials, business leaders, community members, and representatives from various sectors. Ensure that all key voices are heard and involved in the process.
  • 2. Shared Vision Workshops: Organize workshops or sessions to collaboratively define the values, identity, and aspirations of the community. This shared vision will serve as the foundation for the place brand.
  • 3. Partnership Agreements: Establish formal agreements or partnerships outlining the roles and responsibilities of each entity involved in the place branding initiative. Clearly define how collaboration will take place.
  • 4. Open Communication Channels: Create regular communication channels, such as meetings or digital platforms, to facilitate ongoing dialogue among stakeholders. Transparency and open communication are crucial for a successful collaborative effort.
  • 5. Strategic Planning: Develop a strategic plan that aligns the goals of various stakeholders with the overall place brand objectives. This ensures that everyone is working toward a common purpose.
  • 6. Community Involvement: Involve the broader community in the branding process. Conduct surveys, workshops, or town hall meetings to gather input and ensure that the brand resonates with the values and aspirations of the residents.
  • 7. Flexibility and Adaptability: Be flexible and adaptable to evolving circumstances. A collaborative approach requires the ability to adjust strategies based on feedback and changing community dynamics.

By emphasizing collaboration, transparency, and community involvement, communities can create a more robust and inclusive place branding initiative that reflects the collective identity and aspirations of the people it represents.


Ryan Short: Wow, yeah that’s a pretty good list. On the community engagement portion what do you see as areas where communities are getting it wrong when it comes to public engagement? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: Communities may falter in public engagement when they lack inclusivity, relying on a narrow demographic or failing to reach marginalized groups. Limited communication channels, such as exclusive online platforms, can exclude those without internet access. Insufficient transparency about the decision-making process can breed mistrust. Additionally, communities might face challenges when they view engagement as a one-time event rather than an ongoing dialogue. Ignoring diverse perspectives, dismissing feedback without consideration, or failing to communicate outcomes effectively can hinder genuine community involvement. Successful engagement requires a commitment to inclusivity, transparency, and sustained communication to build a more connected and participatory community.


Ryan Short: Yes! I like that you used online only platforms as an example because historically it was in person meetings that were the only avenues for engagement and online tools and channels were the new way to become more inclusive and reach new audiences but we preach to our clients all the time that going all digital is just as bad as going all in person and instead it has to be a healthy balance and mix.  So speaking of digital tools in engagement what ways do you think that AI and ChatGPT can be used in public engagement? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: Certainly! Here are the top 5 ways AI and ChatGPT can be used in public engagement:

  • 1. Information Dissemination: Use AI-powered chatbots to efficiently disseminate information about community initiatives, policies, and projects, ensuring residents are well-informed.
  • 2. 24/7 Accessibility: Deploy ChatGPT-powered chatbots to provide round-the-clock access to information and resources, accommodating diverse schedules and time zones.
  • 3. Surveys and Feedback: Utilize AI-driven surveys and feedback forms through chat interfaces to gather comprehensive opinions on community matters, providing valuable insights for decision-makers.
  • 4. Language Accessibility: Leverage AI language models to facilitate multilingual communication, breaking down language barriers and ensuring information is accessible to a broader audience.
  • 5. Virtual Town Halls: Enhance virtual town hall meetings with AI assistance in organizing agendas, summarizing discussions, and managing Q&A sessions, creating a more streamlined and participatory experience for remote attendees.


Ryan Short: Yes, we’ve been using AI language translation for videos and it’s really good in an almost scary way! Can you elaborate on the one about surveys and feedback? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: Certainly! AI-driven surveys and feedback mechanisms can transform public engagement by leveraging ChatGPT’s natural language processing capabilities. Chatbots can guide users through interactive and conversational surveys, making the experience more engaging and user-friendly. The dynamic nature of chat interfaces allows for real-time clarification of questions and the collection of nuanced responses. Additionally, AI can analyze the gathered data, extracting key themes, sentiments, and priorities expressed by the community. This automated analysis streamlines the processing of large datasets, providing decision-makers with actionable insights in a timely manner. The conversational format also encourages more comprehensive responses, fostering a deeper understanding of community opinions and enhancing the overall effectiveness of the feedback-gathering process.

Ryan Short: So can ChatGPT analyze survey results?

Snoop/ChatGPT: While ChatGPT itself doesn’t have the built-in capability to analyze survey results, you can use its natural language processing capabilities to generate insights from survey responses. After collecting survey data, you can input the responses into a system or tool that employs natural language processing or sentiment analysis algorithms. These algorithms can help identify patterns, sentiments, and key themes within the data.

For example, you could develop a separate application or utilize existing tools that integrate with ChatGPT to perform analysis tasks. This process involves using the model to generate human-readable summaries, categorize responses, or extract relevant information from the survey data.


Ryan Short: Got it! I like the previous recommendation of using AI to summarize virtual meetings and town halls. We’ve recently been utilizing to summarize virtual focus groups and note-taking and it’s been really impactful.   So where do you see the place branding headed in the future? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: The future of place branding is likely to involve several key trends:

  • 1. Digital Innovation and Virtual Experiences: Advancements in AR and VR will redefine how places are experienced and promoted, with virtual platforms playing a significant role in showcasing unique attributes.

  • 2. Sustainability Emphasis: Place branding will increasingly prioritize sustainability and eco-friendly initiatives, reflecting the growing global awareness of environmental issues.

  • 3. Community-Centric Branding: Future strategies will focus on community involvement and empowerment, co-creating brands with residents to ensure authenticity and alignment with community aspirations.


Ryan Short: Good stuff! I agree with a lot of those. If you had to give just one piece of advice to place leaders regarding public engagement, place branding, or placemaking what would it be? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: Prioritize authenticity. Whether engaging the public, crafting a place brand, or shaping the built environment, authenticity builds trust and resonance. Authentic public engagement involves genuinely listening to diverse community voices, valuing their input, and incorporating it into decision-making. Authentic place branding requires a truthful reflection of a location’s identity, embracing both its strengths and challenges. Authentic placemaking involves creating environments that authentically respond to the needs and aspirations of the community, respecting its cultural and historical context. By prioritizing authenticity, place leaders foster a sense of belonging, loyalty, and pride among residents, ultimately creating a more resilient and vibrant community.


Ryan Short: Ok, wow – well I agree with that 1000%. Does it seem ironic that AI is talking about and recommending authenticity? 

Snoop/ChatGPT: It may seem ironic on the surface, as AI lacks personal experiences and emotions associated with authenticity. However, the recommendation for authenticity stems from the understanding that successful engagement, branding, and placemaking hinge on meeting genuine human needs. AI, when used ethically and transparently, can facilitate authentic processes by efficiently handling tasks, ensuring inclusivity, and providing valuable insights. The authenticity lies in the intention and ethical use of AI as a tool to enhance human endeavors, not as a replacement for genuine human connections. It underscores the importance of using technology to amplify, rather than dilute, the authentic voice of communities and the unique identity of a place.


Ryan Short: I think that is a  really great point. This has been great, thank you so much for your time and for talking about place branding with me! I’m glad that we could be your very first podcast interview!

Snoop/ChatGPT: You’re very welcome! I’m glad I could contribute to the conversation about place branding. If you ever have more questions or topics to discuss, feel free to reach out. Good luck with your podcast, and have a fantastic day!


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